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<br><div><div>On 15 Mar 2019, at 16:58, Andrea Mazzanti &lt;<a href="mailto:andrea.mazzanti@unipv.it">andrea.mazzanti@unipv.it</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Ciao Guido,</p><p>ho inteso questo come un "brainstorming" per apportare migliorie
      al bando. Considerato che alla commissione rimane comunque l'orale
      come strumento importante per selezionare i candidati piu
      preparati, e che le proposte di aggiustamenti pervenute sono ad
      impatto marginale (per me è indifferente lasciare cosi o
      aggiustare la ripartizione dei punteggi in un modo o nell'altro)
      proporrei:</p><p>- che ciascuno suggersica eventuali altre modifiche/migliorie
      entro le 24:00 (come da te suggerito)<br>
    </p><p>- di delegare la scelta finale al coordinatore del dottorato
      (lasciare cosi o aggiustare in una o piu delle direzioni proposte)</p><p>Se qualcuno è contrario a lasciare libertà di scelta al
      coordinatore, lo espliciti.</p><p>Ciao,</p><p>Andrea<br>
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      <div>non vorrei divergere: se, oltre alla modifica Danilo, si
        desiderano altre modifiche (come quella da te proposta),
        suggerisco al proponente di incaricarsi di fare un giro via
        e-mail tra tutti e, alla fine, propormi la modifcah corredata
        dai risultati del sondaggio.</div>
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      <div>Un’alternativa (non ne darei altre) è che ciascuno mi
        proponga le modifiche entro questa sera alle 24:00, dopo di che
        io mando una e-amil a tutti, invitando tutti a rispondere, con
        e-mail unica, a tutte le proposte (inclusa la modifica Danilo,
        il cui sondaggio verrebbe resettato), senza né divagazioni né
        altre proposte. Se non, dovente impossibile gestire la cosa.
        Dimmi tu come preferisci.</div>
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      <div>Ciao,</div>
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          <div>On 15 Mar 2019, at 15:30, Andrea Mazzanti &lt;<a href="mailto:andrea.mazzanti@unipv.it" moz-do-not-send="true">andrea.mazzanti@unipv.it</a>&gt;
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Ciao,</p><p>scrivo per condividere il commento di Alessandro. Sono
                favorevole ad aggiustare la ripartizione dei punteggi. <br>
              </p><p>Ma alla luce di ciò che Alessandro giustamente fa
                notare, suggerirei di aggiustare in questo modo:</p><p>- esito esami: 12</p><p>- pubblicazioni: 4</p><p>- altri titoli: 4</p><p>E' poco probabile che laureati in Italia si presentino
                al concorso per dottorato con publicazioni, mentre
                accade di frequente per i laurati all'estero, magari
                presso Università di dubbio prestigio, che abbiano
                publicazioni a congressi locali. <br>
              </p><p>Ciao,</p><p>Andrea<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 15/03/2019 15:05,
                Alessandro Cabrini ha scritto:<br>
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                Tendenzialmente sono d’accordo. Il problema che vedo
                nell’alzare troppo il punteggio relativo agli esami è
                legato alla non omogeneità del percorso di studio dei
                candidati. Penso che servirebbe a tal proposito un
                sistema di ranking affidabile delle Università
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                      <div class="">On 15 Mar 2019, at 14:28, Piero
                        Malcovati &lt;<a href="mailto:piero.malcovati@unipv.it" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">piero.malcovati@unipv.it</a>&gt;
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                          <div class="">io sono d’accordo con Danilo.
                            Chiederei a tutti di rispondere a questa
                            mail dicendo se sono d’accordo o no.</div>
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                                <div class="">On Mar 15, 2019, at 14:24,
                                  Guido Torelli &lt;<a href="mailto:guido.torelli@unipv.it" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">guido.torelli@unipv.it</a>&gt;
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                                    che tutti debbano esprimere il loro
                                    parere su questo punto (ed
                                    eventualmente su altri punti). Non
                                    ritengo opportuno decidere io senza
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                                    <div class="">- o raccogliamo (in un
                                      tempo ragionevole - direi entro
                                      domenica 17 sera o lunedì 18 a
                                      mezzogiorno) proposte di modifiche
                                      e facciamo unsondaggio Doodle sui
                                      singoli punti, se si riesce a
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                                      non un Collegio formale perché
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                                    <div class="">Ditemi come preferite.</div>
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                                        <div class="">On 15 Mar 2019, at
                                          12:50, Danilo Manstretta &lt;<a href="mailto:danilo.manstretta@unipv.it" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">danilo.manstretta@unipv.it</a>&gt;
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                                                    candidati,
                                                    considerato che
                                                    molti di essi non
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                                                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">penso che sarebbe opportuno aumentare il peso
                                                    dato agli esami
                                                    sostenuti <span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;float:none;background-color:transparent" class="">(ad
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                                                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Questo ridurrebbe il peso della voce "altri
                                                    titoli", che è un
                                                    po' vago ed
                                                    attualmente pesa per
                                                    il 25% dei punti
                                                    totali.</div>
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                                                    Danilo</div>
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                                                          Università
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                                                          Pavia<br class="">
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                                            <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">Il giorno ven 15
                                              mar 2019 alle ore 11:56
                                              Guido Torelli &lt;<a href="mailto:guido.torelli@unipv.it" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">guido.torelli@unipv.it</a>&gt;
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                                                <div class="">dobbiamo
                                                  fare avere agli Uffici
                                                  (Maria Grazia Ronfani)
                                                  la scheda per il bando
                                                  di concorso di
                                                  Dottorato per il 35°
                                                  ciclo.</div>
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                                                <div class="">Vi allego
                                                  la bozza della scheda,
                                                  che ho compilato, con
                                                  l’aiuto di Piero, a
                                                  partire da quella
                                                  dello scorso anno.</div>
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                                                <div class="">In
                                                  particolare:</div>
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                                                <div class="">- sono
                                                  stati aggiornati i
                                                  numeri dei posti;</div>
                                                <div class="">- è stata
                                                  eliminata la presenza
                                                  di posti destinati a
                                                  borsisti di Stati
                                                  Esteri</div>
                                                <div class="">- sono
                                                  state cambiate le date
                                                  della prova di
                                                  concorso (19
                                                  settembre, in quanto
                                                  la settima successiva
                                                  è previsto la
                                                  Conferenza ESSCIRC) e
                                                  quella della scadenza
                                                  per l’esposizione dei
                                                  risultati della
                                                  valutazione dei titoli
                                                  (13 settembre, fissata
                                                  in base alla data
                                                  della prova di
                                                  concorso).</div>
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                                                <div class="">Attendo i
                                                  vostri eventuali
                                                  commenti (sempre
                                                  graditi). La settimana
                                                  entrante invio la
                                                  scheda a Maria Grazia
                                                  Ronfani.</div>
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                                                <div class="">Saluti,</div>
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